Coming from my background in education, I got more and more into coffee and I realized that I was more interested in educating in the grander sense and not necessarily just what I went to school for, and building communities, and just kind of seeing what the big thing was about coffee in general.
Coffee shops, or penny universities, have been my best education. I have been trained and conditioned by my schooling, college and everything. This has taught me to think. Think and create and the child inside me is thinking, “Wait a minute now, this is not the way it works! To break these traditions...”
It’s all about those little details and making sure everything's right because that’s what costs you money. Anyone can come up with a cool design... It’s not about that, it’s about executing correctly. It’s about those little details. That’s what’s paramount in design. It’s all about the execution and the details.
What I find is a lot of people want to be artsy, but not artists...they don’t wanna actually produce great works of art...The people that are serious are gonna stick to their guns...They’re never going to stop creating art. It’s what they do.
I remember when we were getting up to the roof, there was an elevator shaft about two stories higher, we walked through there, opened that up...[T]he first thing I turned my flashlight to was the elevator shaft going all the way down to the basement. That was...intense.
If someone says they want to be a Chef, I usually look at them and say that they’re crazy. If they’re cool with that, then maybe they can keep doing it. It is an insane career path to take. It’s terrible in a lot of ways, but at the same time it’s beautiful.